Shitposting in the living room

Feb. 19th, 2019 09:18 pm
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[extensive conversation apropos of which]
Me: I am, unfortunately, seeing a ghost cat (actual cat) wearing a Village People leatherman cop hat.
Some Random Housemate (okay there are only two to choose from): But wouldn't it be the sailor, [apropos of previous]?
Housemate 2: They have that song, In The Navy.
Me, singing: In the Navy, you can sail the seven bees, in the Navy...
[personal profile] silveradept, unhooking the headphones from their ears: I'm sorry, what?
Me, with the aggrieved aggression of a challenged shitposter: Well, how many bees do you think there are?!
kaberett: a watercolour of a pale gold/salmon honeysuckle blossom against a background of green leaves (honeysuckle)
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I didn't (unsurprisingly) get the greenhouse, but looking at it did substantially clarify my thoughts and the eBays do regularly contain less fancy greenhouses that, actually, probably will perfectly well do the job now I know what I'm after.

In which I ramble about hardware and tell stories about secateurs. )

In terms of my upcoming jobs and planting...

Well, I need to spend some quality time pruning the Ribes bushes various; the plot came with a red dessert gooseberry, a redcurrant, and what-I-think-is-a-jostaberry, all of which are a little neglected and tangled. Tidying them up was on the list for Sunday immediately after the teasels, but a pair of secateurs that couldn't handle a teasel was... erstrecht not going to cope with actual wood. They also need top dressing with manure and then probably mulching, but that can wait until after I've tidied them up a little.

Next door, I've come to the conclusion that what I want to do with my ground-level bed (squash, pak choi, and failed calabrese last year) this season is set some broad beans and peas going down the middle around now, and then sow quinoa down the edges some time later. On the one hand, it's not known that this is a good idea; on the other, intercropping legumes and quinoa is a topic of active research and growing trials, and it looks to me like it ought to be sensible, so no doubt you will collectively get Running Commentary while I experiment.

At home, it's time for me to get the purple chillis and the orange bell peppers started (if I'm going to); that can't really happen until we're back full time, and while I'm happy to heat the house to a temperature that is safe and adequate for me to exist in when I'm actually there most of the time, that is... less the case when I'm away. (I'm attempting to resist the temptation to acquire a heated propagator.) Also the tomatoes, though there the thing I really need to do is work out where I want to put them -- whether I want to grow them on at home again, or if I'll be looking to plant them out at the plot.

Which is a general problem -- the working-out-where-to-plant-things. I'm dithering but probably about to come down on the side of putting the saffron bulbs in around the base of the cherry tree; I think I know where I'm going to put the comfrey once it's established itself a little better; and I'm tentatively leaning towards growing the poppies-for-seed in a patch of mixed wildflowers. (WHERE, though, Alex, you need to work out where you're going to put this. Probably also in the general vicinity of the cherry, if we're honest.)

But. Yes. Priorities: getting misc. seeds started; actually sourcing and constructing my proper raised beds so that I can plant out into them (which will inevitably involve More Weeding); pruning and dressing the Ribes; and working out what I want by way of asparagus, because my mother has offered to buy me some crowns.

So, you know, if you have asparagus cultivar recommendations, please by all means go ahead! I prefer the stems to the tips, and I am resigned to growing at least some purple...

Ten years!

Feb. 19th, 2019 10:29 am
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This Saturday was the tenth anniversary of me asking [personal profile] obandsoller to be my "It's Complicated" on Facebook. Ten years! There's a part of me that can't quite believe anyone could put up with me for that long, but when I'm not being self-deprecating, I know that actually we're really good together, and that both of us have done the work to make that happen. There are many things I love about him - how thoughtful and observant he is, the way he appreciates art and words and games and brings things out of them that I'd never notice, his engagement with the world and his passion for justice, his playfulness, his stylishness... I could go on.

But alongside that, there's a lot I really love about the relationship, which is a slightly different thing. I love how safe and secure it makes me feel - the absolute bone deep certainty that he will always be on my side, helping me up when I screw up, and cheering me on when I try to do difficult things. I love how affectionate we are, constantly cuddling and nibbling and reaching out and squeezing each others hands. I love that we like each other very much, and that we tell each other, and why. I love that we do little things for one another - he rubs my neck and shoulders when they're tense, and I bring him tea in the mornings. I love that even when we argue, which doesn't happen all that often, we both try really hard to do so constructively even when we're feeling frustrated, and that we continue to affirm our affection even as we argue. We are both lucky to have such a wonderful partnership, but it isn't just luck, and I think we can both be justly proud of what we've built together.

We celebrated our anniversary with a romantic meal at home - much like the weekend we first got together.

Photos of food and us looking adorable behind the cut )

In praise of xlogo

Feb. 18th, 2019 01:39 pm
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For those who haven't encountered it before, xlogo is a trivial X11 application that pops up a window showing the X Window System logo.

It's close to being the X equivalent of a ‘hello, world’ program, which makes it a good lightweight initial test case. Whenever I need to do a quick check of my X11 connectivity (which in my case usually means I'm checking that SSH X forwarding is basically alive), xlogo is a good choice of program to run: it won't spend ages setting itself up, and unlike text-only alternatives like xdpyinfo, it'll pop up a window on the target display, which makes it easy to check that my connection has gone to the right display.

But that's not all xlogo is good for. There are several other things I use it for:

As a specification. The source code of xlogo is the official location of the definition of the X logo. On one occasion I wanted to put the X logo into some kind of document (though I now can't remember what), and it turned out that the right way to do that was to read the xlogo source and hand-translate the drawing code into SVG.

As a ruler. Want to know how big something on your screen is in pixels? Fire up an xlogo, line it up with one edge of the thing, resize until the opposite edge lines up too, and if your window manager puts up a tooltip during window resizing (which I think all the ones I've ever used do), then you know the size.

As an alarm clock. One of my favourite ways to get a computer to notify me when a job has finished is to get it to start up a giant xlogo large enough to obscure most of my screen – when it's done. This is better than an audible alert because it's less antisocial in an open-plan office; it's better than a momentary window flash because if you happen to be looking away at the time the xlogo is still there when you look back; and it's better than something like echo Done because there's no risk of the window with the message in it being behind something at the time.

As a colour chart. Want to quickly check what #012345 looks like, or one of those X-specific colour names like SteelBlue or OliveDrab? I don't know of a faster way than xlogo -bg 'whatever'.

I've also heard of people using it as an X session lifetime process that is, the thing which, when it goes away, causes the rest of your X session to shut down. I don't do that one myself, and I think it's not common these days because desktop environments generally come with something specifically designed to play that role; but it still has some advantages, because xlogo is so simple that it's very unlikely to crash by accident, whereas if your session lifetime process is doing almost any kind of real work, it's more likely to run into fatal trouble.

In short, I find it a much more useful program than you might think! The only thing I've always found a bit annoying about it is that pressing ‘q’ doesn't close it – I've always had to go hunting for the close button. But I've just found out that that's configurable, so now I can do

echo "XLogo*translations: :<Key>q: quit()" | xrdb -merge

and now my xlogos are easily dismissible, as I've always wanted. Hooray!

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with all the usual caveats about how noisy crowds + not being able to easily move away from people smoking &c all sounds utterly miserable and like it will wreck me for days and possibly weeks--

-- which means that I probably want a sign that reads something to the tune of "Leaving the house was a bad idea. Leaving the EU would be worse." Right? Should I be making it pithier and more entertaining? Is it even a coherent idea?

Consumption

Feb. 17th, 2019 08:31 pm
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Reading. I finished Predators' Gold! It did not redeem itself, to my tastes. I then proceeded to have a bit of a tailspin about "do I object to fiction that portrays people doing bad things without getting 'adequately' punished or without it getting called out in the text? am I secretly an anti?" but the answer is, on reflection, no -- I don't think it's Immoral Art That Should Be Banned, it's just that I've got a very long reading list including a bunch of books I am actually excited (rather than cross) about, and I abruptly Really Don't Care about these characters enough to invest any more time in them at all whatsoever. Meanwhile, I have not been reading much because reasons, but Dreams from My Father reappeared from the library so I'm working slowly on that. Also I finally scraped together the brain to read the most recent shortfic associated with your blue-eyed boys ("shortfic": one of them was 23k words), which was immensely soothing.

Growth. I went to the allotment today! The fennel died back a lot in the frosts but I'm hopeful that 1. it will continue turning into food (it's putting forth new feathery growth) and 2. some if it will get as far as making seeds. I pulled up all the teasels and got as many of them as I could before the cheap shitty secateurs broke, so those are in a neat pile, and did a very little hand-weeding. Happily, though, the combination of manure + weed-suppressant takeaway pizza boxes + wood chip meant that there was really very little weeding as needed done, which impressed me. Spinach is coming along nicely but probably needs thinning (and eating); to my surprise a nontrivial chunk of the remaining pak choi also survived the frosts and are now doing their determined best to flower.

When I got in on Wednesday night, I discovered that my comfrey crowns had finally arrived (on the second attempt) so I've now got those potted up on the patio to establish while I work out where to put them. This means that I also received the last of the seeds currently on order, though I am now seriously considering acquiring two kinds of basil, some caraway and sesame seed, some rocket, and maaaaybe some chickpeas, though chickpeas seem possibly even a step too far for me.

Alas I did not win the greenhouse I had been pining after, but it ended up going for about three times what I was willing or able to pay for it, which means I successfully do not feel bad about having "just missed out" or similar.

Lab supplies. So many lab supplies. I got to campus at around 9 on Thursday and... slightly didn't leave again til 2pm on Saturday, though hopefully by the next time I want to do anything of the sort I'll have 24h access enabled on my card so I'll be able to actually kip on the sofa in my head of group's office rather than drowzing underneath the computer table in the Bloody Cold. (I was wearing three jumpers, a scarf, and fingerless gloves, and I still spent most of those three days shivering.)

Adages III

Feb. 16th, 2019 04:41 pm
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Somehow, in spite of two posts already full of personal adages of mine, I somehow haven't exhausted my supply of them yet. In the last couple of years I've collected another postful of things that I noticed myself saying a lot and realised I've been saying all along.

much adage about nothing )

Pregnancy diaries: Mango

Feb. 16th, 2019 04:11 pm
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Pregnancy news: I'm 19+2, and apparently this week the foetus is the size of a mango. A mango! Mangoes are huge! There are times when I look and feel seriously pregnant - especially after eating, everything seems to get pushed out in front of me all the way up to my ribs, not low like a pot belly but a big high curve. Then in the morning it all looks a bit more deflated.

Week 19 pregnancy symptoms:
- Itchy skin
- Achy muscles, particularly my shoulders, back and intercostals (my ribs start to kill me after I've been sitting still too long)
- Morning sickness (STILL!!)

No swollen feet yet, so I guess that's something. No kicks yet either! I am VERY SAD about this. They are the size of a MANGO how can I not feel them. My bump is big, and at my last scan they said the placenta was behind the baby so I should be able to feel something, but everyone tells me I'll know it when I feel it, and I haven't felt anything yet. I know feeling something for the first time around 18-20 weeks is normal for a first pregnancy, so there's still time, but in the middle of the night when I wake up and everything is still and dark and quiet and I think, surely I should be feeling SOMETHING, it's a bit tricky not to feel anxious. Maybe the foetus is only awake during the day when I'm distracted? Maybe it's died? Maybe I'm not pregnant? Maybe I've just been eating too much pasta?

I have a 20 week foetal anomaly scan booked in on the 27th, so I'll get to watch it wiggling around then and hopefully that should put my fears to rest. Meanwhile the NHS website tells me that 16-24 weeks is normal, so it seems there's over a month before I should start worrying.

I had my obstetrician appointment to talk about endocrine stuff. He said he's not at all worried about my thyroid levels because the supplements are obviously working, but he's referred me for a couple of glucose tests because the PCOS puts me at risk of gestational diabetes. I haven't booked the first one yet, although it was meant to be at 18 weeks, because my schedule just felt too full and I'm a bit sick of losing the whole morning to hospital appointments. Plus it's a fasting test, which means I won't be able to eat to suppress my morning nausea, which means I'll be sick and ... ugh. I'm not looking forward to it.

The good news is that he wrote me a prescription for an antiemetic to help with the morning sickness. I didn't realise I needed to go to the hospital pharmacy to get it, so I guess I'll pick it up next time I go in.

I have heaps of energy, and I also get tired easily. I keep volunteering for things. I've been working really hard on building one of my online income streams, which was super fun for a while, and then it got really boring (omg I hate doing promo), and then it got stressful that I wasn't seeing immediate results. Oh well. I'm enjoying the energy while it lasts.

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Feb. 16th, 2019 10:05 am
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It is 'roses are red' season... someyears ago I saw one that was 'violets are *violet* but we didn't used to have that word' but I can't find it again... anyone know where I might find it?

[food] oh go on then

Feb. 16th, 2019 12:06 am
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Some of you have specifically mentioned being interested in seeing other people's responses to this week's [community profile] thefridayfive, and I'm sitting around nervously watching the mass spec run without the concentration to do anything more useful, so here you go.

Content note: this week's theme is grocery shopping and meal planning. My answers therefore involve mention of sensory issues with food, dietary restrictions, and disordered eating.

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Of course, what these questions don't touch on is HAVE I MENTIONED I HAVE AN ALLOTMENT. :D I make choices about what to grow (and where) for convenience; for example, I don't like buying cut herbs because (i) I feel vaguely guilty and (ii) they're never the right quantities, but I do like fresh herbs, so in pots on the verandah I've got mint, parsley, rosemary, sage, chives, and bay. I'm on the verge of buying seeds for two kinds of basil; an honourable mention to the ancestral wild garlic, that springeth green. I also had tomatoes on the patio (... I still haven't decided what to call it; "decking" seems awfully USois, somehow, and isn't quite in my active vocabulary) this summer, which was convenient and enjoyable enough that I'm likely to do it again. (I might also try cucumbers on the patio, depending on how the weather goes and whether I actually buy a greenhouse.)

At the allotment I'm prioritising things it's ridiculously expensive to buy (poppy seed! caraway seed! hopefully, if I get my act together, asparagus! bay leaves! soft fruit! hopefully some saffron, thanks to [personal profile] ewt!), things that come in entirely the wrong amounts always and are awkward to store (spinach!), things I always wince over the cost of and can rarely be persuaded to indulge myself on (fennel! purple sprouting broccoli! pak choi! shallots! interesting salad leaves! hopefully passionfruit!), things that are Brightly Coloured (this season I'm going to be experimenting with Painted Mountain sweetcorn, rainbow quinoa and purple chillis, among others), things it's otherwise tricksy to find (root parsley! :D), and things that are Just Better when they're really ludicrously fresh (hiiiii peas). I'd already been trying to eat seasonally; I'm looking forward to spending more time paying attention to plants, and trying to remind myself that I'm not going to be starting everything off hideously too late even if I am only getting back from Belfast at the end of February.

This is of course my first year with the allotment so I don't... entirely have a sense of how my shopping patterns will actually be affected, but I Am Excited To Find Out: I've already been enjoying working with the rhubarb and beetroot neighbours have desperately fobbed off on me, and with the things I've managed to get going already. So, you know, if compatible with your diet, should you visit me over the summer there's a very high chance that you'll be fed Things What I Grew (That Aren't The Sourdough), and should I visit you you might get brought A Tribute...

frida 5 grocery shopping.

Feb. 15th, 2019 09:22 pm
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1. Do you make up a dinner plan for the coming week?

Yes, although I'm only responsible for 2-3 dinners. I plan them, my lunches, and my breakfasts and snacks.

2. Do you make up a shopping list and stick to it when shopping?

sort of, it's not in one list form - recipies and my 'I always get...' list in my head

3. What is one thing that you always buy, but never put down on a list?

Fresh fruit, I'll get what's available

4. Is there anything that you always think you are out of and come home with it to discover you already have a year’s supply on hand?

I do this when I am *in the house* shopping. At the moment it is lentils, it has been pasta, and toilet roll.

5. Do you get your groceries delivered?

Yes, almost all of my groceries are delivered.

Quiet week / Friday Five

Feb. 15th, 2019 12:16 pm
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It's been a relatively uneventful week. Last weekend [personal profile] smhwpf came over so I could show him how I do the church bookkeeping, which he is very nobly taking off my hands, and on Sunday evening we had our monthly "House Date Night", and played Dominion, of which we very egalitarianly* won one game each. I went to another rehearsal of the university choir, which feels like it's going quite well. In particular, when the director made us get all mixed up and stand with the other parts, I was a lot more able to hold to the tenor line without following the people next to me than I expected to be.

On Thursday I took myself to the cinema to see All Is True, a heavily fictionalised biopic about Shakespeare's later life. It's got fairly variable reviews, and I think that's probably fair - the plot is a bit meandering, and some of the characters are a bit two-dimensional, but there's some stellar acting, and I very much appreciated the bi representation.

Friday Five on grocery shopping
1. Do you make up a dinner plan for the coming week?
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Snow :/

Feb. 14th, 2019 09:57 am
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Snow is melting!

This morning on my way from the poorly-cleared drop-off point to the bus, I slipped and nearly fell on some wet-looking ice.

The transit system is slowly becoming unfucked. As the streets de-ice, they're repairing the buses that have been damaged by their own tire chains.

As I told Toronto Ponytail this morning downstairs, it's not specifically that the snow was that bad, it's that the snow was that bad for the infrastructure we have. Nobody* has shovels, there aren't enough snowplows, and he agreed that it's actually entirely sensible for people to assume they're not going anywhere for a week and to shop accordingly. Especially when the store's incoming deliveries are going to be disrupted too.

This climate stuff. It just isn't natural.

* People who have lived here through the last big snow probably have shovels, unless their evil ex took them on the way out. Cough, glare, spit.

** Climate change deniers will be vaccinated and fed to starving polar bears.
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spot the difference!

preferment: the selection of clergy to hold positions of senior office in the Church (of England) (largely obsolete)
preferment: a preparation of a portion of a bread dough that is made several hours or more in advance of mixing the final dough

my recreational reading, you see, currently includes a nontrivial amount of Austen and a nontrivial amount of The Theory Of Sourdough. APPARENTLY in this modern day and age we don't believe in clarifying punctuation. as a result I am spending a lot of time being very confused about theology.

Today in teeth

Feb. 13th, 2019 10:47 am
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Content notes/conversational parameters: brief discussion of oral health and teething; mention (no specifics) of anxiety dreams. On the whole I think teeth are skin-crawlingly awful, so please don't go into detail about oral damage/dental procedures/etc in comments. The level of detail in the post is probably a good guide. <3

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Ouch.

Feb. 10th, 2019 10:31 pm
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It has been very snowy. It has also been warm. What does that mean? Ice. So much ice. That means: ice chipping. ouch. My right arm. My right arm is not working right for the rest of the evening. I am dictating this via the phone.
There were not any flat shovels left at home Depot. There were, however, other shovels, and rakes, and implements of destruction.
Before the home Depot run, I was using the pizza peel to shovel the sidewalk. I am proud of my ingenuity.

Consumption

Feb. 10th, 2019 11:31 pm
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Reading. Mostly Predator's Gold, the sequel to Mortal Engines, because I found it for two quid in a charity shop and I wanted to know what happened next. Spoilers beneath the cut. Read more... )

TV. Slow progress with Leverage S4, encouraged by a visitcousin who's very into the show. Still pausing several times an episode to go YOU WHAT. THAT ISN'T HOW ANYTHING EVEN. (It's possible I've been spoiled by Matt Damon's Important Space Potatoes, but like, show. SHOW. That is NOT HOW POTATOES.)

Food. I had... two surprisingly faily attempts at sourdough, after a long run of Good Bread. One was in no small part because I started cooking it using the grill rather than the oven because I was Not Terribly With It (...), but both were more of a bread-puddle than they ought to have been. I eventually worked out that I'd made the starter slightly wetter than it had been previously, which meant I needed to decrease the liquid some. Nevertheless our guests this weekend (my parents; a cousin) have consumed three loaves in their entirety, and cousin will make further inroads into the fourth once I've baked it tomorrow morning, so that's all gratifying. For bonus points the cousin is in the process of setting up her own starter so I am getting to do lots of Sourdough Nerdery with her.

Tiny adventures. Yesterday we took a trip to the Giant's Causeway, because it's right there and it would have been silly not to (and also I only waited this long because my mother had put in a special request that we delay it until she could join in). It turns out that despite perfectly well knowing the relevant physics for columnar jointing and therefore what the scales involved are, I'd somehow interpreted "Giant's Causeway" to mean that the jointing itself was on a giant scale i.e. I was expecting diameters of, oooh, at least 75cm or so? Rather than... the thirty-odd we were actually getting. Which, to be fair, is still a good deal larger than my previous in-the-wild encounter: we'd plonked ourselves down in a pile of bracken in a streambed to have lunch, one day during my mapping project, and went "oooh, that's a funny-looking rock..." It turned out, on slightly closer inspection, to be a very small exposure of some really small columns (diameter ~5cm), and I was charmed and delighted. (They were SMOL.) So, yes, this was much more impressive than that, in both scale and definition, and I'm very glad to have seen it, even as I wist after being able to do the proper hike. I hadn't realised about the concave-and-convex ball-joint horizontal fractures as a result of vertical contraction because they're less spectacular so my lecturers just... didn't bother mentioning them? But they were charming, I was charmed, hurrah.

Today we visited HMS Caroline, because my mother is interested in naval history (and my father can be persuaded to be) and it spent nontrivial amounts of time stationed near HMS Essex, which my great-grandfather served on; in the most recent trip to the mouldering ancestral pile some of the things we dug out were A Lot of records pertaining to his time aboard both the Essex and, before that, on the cable-laying ships working the Atlantic. The Caroline is remarkably accessible -- they've installed three lifts, and the ramp to get on board is only unnavigably steep at high tide. I... had a bunch of feelings. [personal profile] me_and's favourite fact was probably that regarding the ships mascots during WWI: two cats and... a rabbit. (I'm not sure I can generate one, because feelings.)

This week coming. Hopefully actually managing to send off a draft of my paper; hopefully actually getting the final data for the final segment of it; hopefully getting to spend a good deal of time at the allotment.

Self-Curated Vidshow Challenge

Feb. 9th, 2019 10:19 pm
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I'm delighted by [personal profile] trelkez's vidshow challenge. I made a playlist of 13 of my vids. There are links and some notes here.

I tried to pick a broad selection of my vids that cover the various things I've tried over the years. Also a triad of Vienna Teng vids because I can. I chose:

01 Many Hands (Multifandom)
02 Call Me Maybe (MCU)
03 We Go Together (Star Trek XI)
04 Comedy Tragedy History (Hamilton)
05 Blank Soace (Doctor Who) made with [personal profile] purplefringe
06 The Skins (Multifandom)
07 Counting Stars (MCU)
08 She Keeps Me Warm (Saving Face)
09 Around Us (Avatar: the Last Airbender)
10 The Breaking Light (Pacific Rim)
11 Antebellum (Merlin)
12 Blue Caravan (Doctor Who)
13 Fly (Multifandom)

You can view them in their individual DW posts, download all 13 in this zip file or play them in a playlist here:



One exception: Blank Space, which is currently available for streaming here on sendvid. I designed it to play fifth after my Hamilton vid, but you know, whatever's easiest.

Let me know if there are any broken links or other problems. I'm also uploading a zip file of all 13 vids, I'll update this post when that's done.